# The Reality of Abstractions and Mathematics
This has been touched on in several great books.
* Darwins Dangerous Idea, pg 128-132 140, Forced Moves in the Game of Design
* Idea: Some things are *forced moves* in *design space*. These are likely to be converged upon again and again. This gives them a sort of objective reality.
* Fabric of Reality, pg 88, Chapter Criteria For Reality, The Nature of Mathematics,
* We must adopt the methodological rule that if something is capable of "kicking back", then we regard that as evidence that it exists.
* The Beginning of Infinity, Chapter The Reality of Abstractions
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